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hey guys Ryan spreg here from the

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somewhere in the skies podcast and

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welcome to my new series somewhere in

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the skies Case Files and for our very

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first case today we're gonna be covering

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the Carlos de Santos UFO incident tell

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me what you think in the comments below

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let me know what cases you want me to

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cover on this new series and I'll see

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you on the other side

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it was the morning of May 3rd 1975 upon

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returning from a routine flight from

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Sawat Anejo to Mexico City

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23 year old pilot Carlos de Santos

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prepared his piper PA to for plane and

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it was soon in the skies

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heading for the Benito Juarez

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International Airport it was over the

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VHF omnidirectional radio range when

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Carlos noticed something odd in the

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distance as he approached the oddity on

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his left it soon came into view there in

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the skies was a craft gray in color and

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saucer shaped it was much smaller than

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his plane as it began to follow his left

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wing it had what appeared to be a

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cockpit of some sort on the top with a

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blackened out window as Carlos stared in

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awe at the craft he had a strange

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feeling that he was being watched from

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the other side of his plane he turned to

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look and on his right wing was yet

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another identical craft Carlos now felt

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uneasy but before he could even process

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what was happening a third craft

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appeared directly in front of his plane

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descending beneath the front reacting on

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impulse

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Carlos dipped the nose of the plane to

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observe where this craft had gone to his

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surprise and dismay the craft was a

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little too close for comfort

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hitting and scraping the fuselage

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damaging the landing gear of the plane

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it was at this point that Carlos no

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longer felt in control of his Piper

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plane no matter what he did to try to

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get a handle of the plane nothing was

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working

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surrounded by the three unknown objects

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he was sure that they were moving in to

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attack surprisingly however Carlos felt

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as though they were guiding him he still

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felt threatened and attempted to bump

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the object to his right hoping this

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would somehow stop the control over his

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plane but it didn't they were still in

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complete control and now forcing the

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piper plane to ascend to dangerous

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altitudes helpless and afraid of the

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rapid increase in cabin pressure

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literally killing him Carlos did the

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only thing he could do he radioed for

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help

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connecting with a control tower in

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Mexico City he sent a distress call

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yelling Mayday as loud and as frequent

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[Laughter]

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he went on to describe what was

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happening stating that quote I have

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three unidentified visual objects flying

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around me end quote

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he then went on to explain that quote

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I'm apparently flying without control

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the plane is without control I'm not

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controlling the plane end quote

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the control tower instructed him to

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decelerate and descend but Carlos

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explained that he couldn't he believed

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this was the end but just as he lost all

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hope the object seemed to distance

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themselves and begin to head toward the

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nearby mount Popocatepetl volcano at

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unbelievable speeds the object soon

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disappeared out of sight and Carlos

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regained control of his aircraft he

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notified the control tower of such but

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the issue remained that his landing gear

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was damaged beyond control the airport

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issued an emergency landing clearing the

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area of all flights forced to circle the

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airport almost a dozen times

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Carlos desperately searched for

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something to fix the landing gear he was

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able to find a screwdriver and in a

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makeshift process was successful in

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extending the gear and safely landing

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the plane

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Carlos was treated at a local clinic and

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no substances were found in his system

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he was given a clear bill of health and

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permission to continue flying thereafter

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any doubt that the event occurred were

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squashed when the radar operators at the

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control tower that day testified that

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they did indeed view the objects in

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real-time as they were making the

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maneuvers that Carlos had been reporting

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according to UFO researcher Miguel

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Romero an affidavit was recorded in

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official minutes of the General

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Directorate of Civil Aeronautics by the

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Officer of aeronautical authority for

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the International Airport of Mexico City

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the case caught international attention

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and soon news outlets wanted to speak to

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Carlos about what had happened the case

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was also investigated by Project Blue

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Book unto the guidance of dr. J Alan

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Hynek

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the government hired astronomer who

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officialy looked at UFO cases on several

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occasions

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Carlos was visited by what can only be

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described as men in black he was told

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not to speak of what had happened or he

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and his family could suffer consequences

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but he was adamant about getting his

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story out to the public and even until

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this day continues to speak out about it

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Carlos went on to continue flying having

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a healthy and safe career thereafter but

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presumably that almost fateful day in

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1975 completely changed his outlook on

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what lay somewhere in the skies over

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Mexico and just exactly how much control